so... as everyone who knows me and ashby is aware... our "record" was finished in 2006, took over two years to complete... and still hasn't been released. people actually acted interested up until this year. god bless them. some people thought we had actually been recording and mixing this entire time... for like 8 hours a day or something. the truth is... we started this record as the ashes , and finished it as wiseblood . but it's been done for a while. we talked in 2003 about recording an ep or doing a record at a studio... and fresh off of our tremendously shitty production experience at workplay , i talked everyone into doing it ourselves. this was a good and a bad idea... we had strong songs but limited recording experience. i had never produced a rock record before. i had made demos and experimented with electronic music, but not a full rock album. we played a lot of shows in 2003, and came to the end of the usual regional touring scenario by early 2004. we sta...